INTP Discussion Forum > Online Tests > DDLI

Posted by: NGene Apr 8 2004, 07:20 PM

http://4np.net/ddli/

Now this test is worth taking. It's pretty long, but I like the way the questions are asked. It's an MBTI-like test but seems to test the individual eight Jungian functions.

Sometimes the test seems to ask the traditional E vs I, J vs P, F vs T questions, but sometimes it also clearly measures the individual Jungian functions. For example, I spotted some questions that were clearly like Te vs Ti, Se vs Si, Fe vs Fi and so on. This makes the test very interesting, as well as the fact that you can state "no preference" or define the strength of each preference.

Don't believe the test is worth taking? I've never before seen an online test that doesn't ask "Is your desk messy? Y/N" but asks:

Which do you keep less cluttered?
a) Your room or office?
b) Your mind

At last a question like this! In my opinion, it's clearly a Te vs Ti question, instead of being a traditional MBTI J vs P question. There's been a lot of discussion of the INTP's tendency to have their mind in good order, but their room or desk cluttered.

Well, my results:

Genie's scores on the main set of questions:

Extraversion (E): 0 50 :(I) Introversion
Sensing (S): 11 60 :(N) iNtuition
Thinking (T): 67 9 :(F) Feeling
Judging (J): 3 60 :(P) Perceiving

You scored as an INTP.

Genie's scores on the supplementary questions:

Extraverted Thinking / Introverted Feeling : 19
Extraverted Feeling / Introverted Thinking : 52

Extraverted Intuition / Introverted Sensing : 24
Extraverted Sensing / Introverted Intuition : 21

Rationality (Dominant Judging Function) : 39
A-rationality (Dominant Perceiving Function) : 9

According to the supplementary scores, Genie could be an ESFJ or an INTP. These are opposite types, because the supplementary questions measure for preferences that opposite types share in common.See the FAQ for an explanation.

These results are consistent with your score as an INTP.

Now, this was a little confusing, and there wasn't any link to a FAQ, so I had to find it myself and Google kindly showed me the http://www.ling.rochester.edu/~duniho/ddli/ that explains a great deal.

Posted by: Odyssey Apr 10 2004, 05:53 AM

Odyssey's scores on the main set of questions:

--Extraversion (E): 11 ==47 :(I) Introversion--
-------Sensing (S): 8 ===75 :(N) iNtuition------
-------Thinking (T): 79 == 9 :(F) Feeling--------
--------Judging (J): 18 ==51 :(P) Perceiving----

[...]

Odyssey's scores on the supplementary questions:

[Te & Fi] : 20
[Ti & Fe] : 51

[Ne & Si] : 39
[Ni & Se]: 14

[Dominant Judging Function] : 43
[Dominant Perceiving Function] : 18

[...]

These results are consistent with your score as an INTP.

Fascinating! It asked me a lot of questions I had never thought of before... like how much I interact with people from a Thinking (cause/effect) orientation when before I thought I was being a Feeler for paying attention to emotions. I experience/see the emotions and then make Thinking-type statements to learn about the emotions; the emotions aren't usually ends in themselves when with people. Also, often I'll sense artistic/interpersonal harmony for harmony's sake, but just as often I try to make a logical association ("why is there harmony here?") - or if I can't make a logical connection I leave it as a 'floating' idea/curiosity to sort out or notice again later.

As for taking information in "objectively" as opposed to "feeding it into my Thinking function" (personalitypage.com-->personal.growth)...
__Hm. I have managed to learn that emotions & harmony & social things are valuable for various reasons, and I am extremely willing to learn about emotions just because they exist - even if I can't figure out good logical cause/effect reasonings for some of them.
__I think I'm doing pretty well with accepting new (anomolous) information without rejecting it as illogical - like the spider analogy I came up with in another thread, my intuition tends to leap out to the new idea/fact on a flimsy strand of understanding. Then, over time, I try to fill in the gaps. --Maybe that's why I find life so fascinating and, frankly, enjoyable; I have all these partially explored concepts and other types of information logged in my brain that I can't logically organize (or sometimes not even describe) yet. Every time one of those concepts/facts/ideas/hunches begins to make a little more sense, though, I get a glorious "Ah-HA!". Fun, fun =)
__Such "ah-ha"s happen most when I'm engaged with something outside myself rather than practicing "omphaloskepsis" =) - 'Theoretically explainable by extraverted iNtuition.

~Odyssey

Posted by: Vagabond Apr 10 2004, 10:04 AM

Calliope's scores on the main set of questions:

Extraversion (E): 11 42 :(I) Introversion
Sensing (S): 19 49 :(N) iNtuition
Thinking (T): 118 4 :(F) Feeling
Judging (J): 19 44 :(P) Perceiving

You scored as an INTP.

Assuming that you are an INTP,
Your DOMINANT function is Introverted Thinking.
Your AUXILIARY function is Extraverted Intuition.
Your TERTIARY function is Introverted Sensing.
Your INFERIOR function is Extraverted Feeling.

Calliope's scores on the supplementary questions:

Extraverted Thinking / Introverted Feeling : 34
Extraverted Feeling / Introverted Thinking : 25

Extraverted Intuition / Introverted Sensing : 29
Extraverted Sensing / Introverted Intuition : 21

Rationality (Dominant Judging Function) : 53
A-rationality (Dominant Perceiving Function) : 6

According to the supplementary scores, Calliope could be an ESTJ or an INFP. These are opposite types, because the supplementary questions measure for preferences that opposite types share in common. See the FAQ for an explanation.

These results conflict with the evaluation of Calliope as an INTP.

OK... I can understand the F thing in the supplementary questions, as I was trained to be a feeler; why the heck do I keep hitting J? :(

Edit by NGene: I disabled smilies in your post. If you copy and paste your results directly from the page, you'll have this ":(" in them, which becomes the sad smiley face if you don't edit the results or disable smilies.

Posted by: NGene Apr 12 2004, 10:48 AM

QUOTE (Vagabond @ Apr 10 2004, 10:04 AM)

OK... I can understand the F thing in the supplementary questions, as I was trained to be a feeler; why the heck do I keep hitting J?

What, you're not hitting a J here - unless you suddenly start thinking you're an ESTJ, that is.

Or, depends on how you define "J." If you define "J" the MBTI way, it means your Judging Function would be an extraverted one, which is not the case of an INFP.

But if you define the "J" as someone having a dominant Judging Function, be it extra- or introverted, then an INFP (as well as an INTP) is a J, because their dominant function is Fi or Ti. I think this is the case in your results, so in this sense, you are hitting a J.

But not in the MBTI sense.

I'm actually getting more and more convinced that the whole concept of J's and P's should be thrown away.

Posted by: misspadfoot Apr 25 2004, 02:18 AM

michelle's scores on the main set of questions:

Extraversion (E): 0 60

I) Introversion
Sensing (S): 5 65

N) iNtuition
Thinking (T): 94 5

F) Feeling
Judging (J): 8 60

P) Perceiving

You scored as an INTP.

Assuming that you are an INTP,
Your DOMINANT function is Introverted Thinking.
Your AUXILIARY function is Extraverted Intuition.
Your TERTIARY function is Introverted Sensing.
Your INFERIOR function is Extraverted Feeling.

Please bear in mind that the supplementary questions are experimental and may be highly unreliable. If these scores conflict with your previous scores, it is probably because the questions are still not reliable enough.

michelle's scores on the supplementary questions:

Extraverted Thinking / Introverted Feeling : 22
Extraverted Feeling / Introverted Thinking : 52

Extraverted Intuition / Introverted Sensing : 45
Extraverted Sensing / Introverted Intuition : 18

Rationality (Dominant Judging Function) : 42
A-rationality (Dominant Perceiving Function) : 12

Well, it does check with what I know of myself. NGene, I'm not sure the J/P scale should be thrown out altogether. I think maybe the single-dominant-function idea should be thrown out. I know an INTJ, for instance, whose dominant function is Te, as far as I can tell. According to the MBTI, that should be her secondary function. According to Socionics (and Jung? Not really sure), Ti should be her dominant function.

I think the J/P scale should only be used to determine whether a rational or a-rational function is extraverted. The functions should be divided into two pairs: the dominant and inferior functions. For us INTPs and other NTs, the dominant functions would be iNtuition and Thinking and the inferior ones would be Feeling and Judging. The test shouldn't tell us which function is dominant, because that varies from person to person. It should merely tell us which function is extraverted.

Posted by: INTrPosr Apr 28 2004, 06:04 PM

Please bear in mind that the DDLI does not tell you what your type is. It merely indicates what might be your type with some degree of probability. Do not take your results on the DDLI as the final word on what your type is. With that said, here are your results:

Jack's scores on the main set of questions:

Extraversion (E): 14 43

I) Introversion
Sensing (S): 15 72

N) iNtuition
Thinking (T): 92 20

F) Feeling
Judging (J): 23 57

P) Perceiving

You scored as an INTP.

Please bear in mind that the supplementary questions are experimental and may be highly unreliable. If these scores conflict with your previous scores, it is probably because the questions are still not reliable enough.

Jack's scores on the supplementary questions:

Extraverted Thinking / Introverted Feeling : 10
Extraverted Feeling / Introverted Thinking : 72

Extraverted Intuition / Introverted Sensing : 27
Extraverted Sensing / Introverted Intuition : 32

Rationality (Dominant Judging Function) : 44
A-rationality (Dominant Perceiving Function) : 14

According to the supplementary scores, Jack could be an ENFJ or an ISTP. These are opposite types, because the supplementary questions measure for preferences that opposite types share in common. See the FAQ for an explanation.

These results conflict with the evaluation of Jack as an INTP.

NGene,

I would probably have to say this was better than the authentic MBTI II. The format is brilliant. As for the conflicting results. I would have expected INFJ and ESTP for my supplementary scores, but am not surprised with those given. Are all of the results on the supplementary the opposites of each other, i.e. ENFJ/ISTP....., INTP/ESFJ...... etc?

Jack

Posted by: NGene Apr 28 2004, 06:42 PM

QUOTE (INTrPosr @ Apr 28 2004, 09:04 PM)

Are all of the results on the supplementary the opposites of each other, i.e. ENFJ/ISTP....., INTP/ESFJ...... etc?

Yes. You'll notice this if you consider the function order (in the MBTI system):

ENFJ: Fe Ni Se Ti
ISTP: Ti Se Ni Fe

INTP: Ti Ne Si Fe
ESFJ: Fe Si Ne Ti

As you see, opposite types have two things in common. First, they have exactly the same functions and orientations, but in different order.

Second, their dominant function is the same type (judging or perceiving). If you look at the function orders, both INTP and ESFJ have a Judging function as their dominant function.