| INTP Discussion Forum > Introductions > The forums have just become 3000% more cynical... |
| Posted by: Cloakable Jul 6 2004, 02:30 PM |
| Welcome to my post. My name is Andrew Leonard Hailes, I'm 19 yrs old, and English. My Myers-Briggs profile is INTP (like most ppl here). I am now going to retire out of the spotlight, and let the rest of you ppl ask questions and savage me for any spelling/grammar mistakes I may have made |
| Posted by: file cabinet Jul 6 2004, 03:49 PM |
| you only have 1 space after each period.. you should be starting each sentence with 2 spaces. do ppl call you by your middle name? |
| Posted by: Division56 Jul 6 2004, 04:12 PM |
| You take cynical, I've got sardonic covered. |
| Posted by: Vagabond Jul 6 2004, 05:23 PM |
| Just remember us INTXs have both sardonic and cynical covered - add sarcastic to that Welcome to the madhouse, Andrew. (Hey, European members are getting more and more each day... hurray! |
| Posted by: misspadfoot Jul 7 2004, 02:20 AM | ||
| You're bragging about your cynicism at the age of 19? Edit: I just realized that sounded more hostile than I intended. It also sounded fairly stupid, as I'm younger than you. Welcome to the forums. I'm Michelle and I used to be naive and innocent. Then I came here. Oh, and file cabinet:
I think both 1 and 2 spaces are generally accepted. Ellipses (plural of ellipsis, not ellipse) with only two periods, however, are not; nor are sentences started with lower-case letters. This post is brought to you by Padfoot's Inner Grammar Bitch. |
| Posted by: nobarcode Jul 7 2004, 03:03 AM | ||||
I think she is trying to tell us that we are OLD (..and in the way). |
| Posted by: Amy Jul 7 2004, 04:14 AM | ||||
Html web pages by themselves don't read more than one space without tricks such as or blank spacer graphics. So when you write text on the internet (or in this forum) you can't use two spaces. Therefore the proper way to write anything on the internet is with one space after each period. |
| Posted by: Six Jul 7 2004, 08:12 AM |
| geez... it's just good to read you guys... there are sooooo many out there who wouldn't find this thread even slightly funny...or see any point in talking about spaces in sentences... so much for grammar mistakes... aehm... hope you know what I wanted to say... I don't really feel like being in the situation to welcome you, Andrew, as I'm more than new to this forum myself... But I'm pretty sure that you gonna have fun...there are some vibes here tugging on your brainwaves in a very stimulating way |
| Posted by: file cabinet Jul 7 2004, 08:26 AM | ||
I never noticed that, I feel like such a noob. |
| Posted by: utopmk19 Jul 7 2004, 09:30 AM | ||
Better a noob, than a nub. |
| Posted by: Cloakable Jul 7 2004, 11:42 AM | ||
Heh, I've been sarcastic, cynical with a dash of sardonic before I became a teenager - the result of parents divorcing, and being surrounded by idiots from the foster placement I was in. And don't worry about the hostillity - I've experienced far worse than that - my father is (I think) an ESTJ, with a controlling streak wider than America - and his ideas about my future were different from mine. |
| Posted by: Division56 Jul 7 2004, 02:24 PM |
| Do tell! |
| Posted by: Claverhouse Jul 7 2004, 10:51 PM |
| Not to cavil or anything, but not only should there be two spaces after every period, but also after every colon or semicolon. Further in order to win and keep my respect you should add a period after each contracted word, such as Mr. or etc. f'rinstance. And it may not come out with the right spaces always, but you should still type that way, then you can enjoy the thrill of knowing you did it correctly. Being right is the most important thing on earth. The joy is even more enhanced if others are wrong. Of course that's just English: other grammars are no doubt still more stringent. Punctuation is your friend ( if not as quite as helpful as a luger ). Claverhouse |
| Posted by: Amy Jul 8 2004, 12:10 AM | ||
I'm sorry, but I simply must object for the following reasons: 1. new medium, new rules The internet is a different medium for writing which should have its own rules. The way one reads text on a lighted screen is different from a piece of paper. The rules for both style of writing and visual layout should not follow the same rules as doing the same work for print. 2. follow rules for reasons, not just because they're there The reason grammar and punctuation rules are there is so there will be a standard so written communication will be more easily understood between people. Since html does not acknowledge the spacing rules, following them does not improve communication in any way. 3. following archaic rules is inefficient You can't see the extra spaces, so you are wasting valuable time adding them. There's no need to even think about how many spaces you need on the internet because no matter how many you add, the end product will only have one. (I'm just being difficult. I actually do put two spaces after every period in this forum, even though nobody will ever know. It's a habit.) |
| Posted by: nobarcode Jul 8 2004, 12:31 AM | ||
I enjoyed it, but it seems you are confusing grammer with punctuation in #2. "Not to cavil or anything..." |
| Posted by: Strephonade Jul 8 2004, 12:40 AM |
| We should create a language comprised of nothing but punctuation. Just kidding! Heehee! Cloakable--Hi!! Welcome to the forum! |
| Posted by: Amy Jul 8 2004, 01:30 AM | ||
Geez, picky, picky. I fixed it. |
| Posted by: Jkrs Jul 8 2004, 04:33 AM | ||
....|---|.-- * .-|-...|---|..-|- * http://www.babbage.demon.co.uk/morseabc.html * ..--.. Greetings Cloakable. Is your stealth technology for sale? We in the backwaters of the universe don't often have such available. |
| Posted by: Strephonade Jul 8 2004, 07:41 PM |
| Morse code is interesting--I remember playing with it on walkie-talkies as a kid--the idea of language broken down into the most elemental of sounds, and that the sounds were more or less universal fascinated me. It's amazing to note how long it's been around, and how it can be used by practically anyone and everyone. It seems a little cumbersome though, to have to indicate one letter, or one number with so many symbols, and that the letters themselves must then be arranged in certain configurations to have discernable meaning. Maybe if there were a way to streamline Morse? Or what if there were something completely different? |
| Posted by: misspadfoot Jul 8 2004, 09:56 PM | ||
I don't know; I used to leave two spaces as well, but now I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether or not they are necessary. I know Eats, Shoots and Leaves isn't the authoritative guide to punctuation in the English language - there is no authoritative guide to punctuation in the English language - but I'm quoting it anyway: "Until very recently, typists were taught to leave a two- or even three-space gap after a full stop, but now word processing programs will automatically reduce the gap to a single word space. Semicolons and colons used to have a word space preceding them, and two spaces after, and to be honest, it looked very elegant : but nobody does that anymore." I don't know about you, but I'm riding the wave of laziness into Single-Space Land for the exact reason that Amy cited: we should follow rules for reasons, not just because they're there. |
| Posted by: Jkrs Jul 9 2004, 03:14 AM | ||
If you made word-codes that would be shorter than spelling things out, it would help somewhat, but with only two characters available there's not much one can do to add information without adding length. 26 varieties of punctuation would work quite well, but then what would you punctuate with? Regular characters? |