INTP Discussion Forum > The Local Pub > Somewhat ironic we have a board for introductions


Posted by: Milk Jul 6 2004, 03:36 AM
Looking around here for the entire week or so I've been a user, it seems like EVERY topic is about getting to know each other. Even the topics about other things wind up being about getting to know each other! It's very strange on the face of it, though at another forum I frequent everything quickly turns into violence and sex.

Do we really need all that validation? Are we using this place to take notes on each other? In short, wuzupwitdat?

Posted by: CosmicDust Jul 6 2004, 03:42 AM
QUOTE (Milk @ Jul 5 2004, 11:36 PM)
Are we using this place to take notes on each other? In short, wuzupwitdat?

Duh. We're INTP's. We spend inordinate amounts of time trying to figure things out, especially mysterious and complicated shit like ourselves and other people.

Posted by: nobarcode Jul 6 2004, 03:59 AM
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QUOTE (Milk @ Jul 5 2004, 08:36 PM) Somewhat ironic we have a board for introductions ............Even the topics about other things wind up being about getting to know each other!...........
Are we using this place to take notes on each other? In short, wuzupwitdat? 

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Shaytana
Oh, the Irony.


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Posted by: utopmk19 Jul 6 2004, 04:15 AM
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Milk  Posted on Jul 5 2004, 09:36 PM
  Looking around here for the entire week or so I've been a user, it seems like EVERY topic is about getting to know each other. Even the topics about other things wind up being about getting to know each other! It's very strange on the face of it, though at another forum I frequent everything quickly turns into violence and sex.

Do we really need all that validation? Are we using this place to take notes on each other? In short, wuzupwitdat?


For me, I am genuinley interested in learning about my fellow INTPs, and about every post I make is an attempt to provoke a response, to further my understanding of the people who post here.

Do we really need all that validation?
Yes, I think we do!

Its also neat to find out how people like us,
live their lives in situations unlike our own.
You can see how enviromental factors can effect who or what you become.


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> Driving record
azadam 
  Posted: May 12 2004, 07:04 PM
(Sometimes the conversations on here crack me up because if you read them a certain way, this sounds more like a super-hero support group than an INTP discussion board.)

Posted by: Jkrs Jul 6 2004, 05:08 AM
QUOTE (CosmicDust @ Jul 6 2004, 03:42 AM)
QUOTE (Milk @ Jul 5 2004, 11:36 PM)
Are we using this place to take notes on each other? In short, wuzupwitdat?

Duh. We're INTP's. We spend inordinate amounts of time trying to figure things out, especially mysterious and complicated shit like ourselves and other people.

Welcome to Data Central.

Having other people to take notes on and bounce the occasional idea off of is actually quite helpful. It means you've got more than one data set to analyse, and that can only do good things for the resulting theories.


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Do we really need all that validation?

If we don't, I don't see it doing anyone any harm.

Posted by: Division56 Jul 6 2004, 05:38 AM
Who else would give us validation?

Most of us are underappriciated. It's nice to find a place where you are the normal one.

Posted by: Vagabond Jul 6 2004, 06:02 PM
I don't know what you mean by "validation". I surely don't need it. I don't hate it either - it just doesn't affect me. The thing is, all my life I have been observing people, making patterns out of their behaviour, and his is something that has helped me extremely in getting along with that "weird world" (oh, how dramatic of me biggrin.gif ). I don't see anything wrong with it. I realise that people in here are taking notes on me, just like I am taking notes on everyone as well. It is not like making an archive to use against someone (lol), it is about observing the consistency in actions, the repeating of patterns of each person, and comparing to myself and to others to notice bigger patterns etc. It is about understanding the world and ourselves, feeding our thought and expanding our knowledge and perceiving/judging abilities.

Feeling we are not weird is also a result of the process, which can only be helpful, I think. I mean, OK... maybe someone who has lead a big part of their life among introverts or thinkers wouldn't see much use in it, but trust me, if your environement overwhelms you, going into a (virtual) place where the way your mind works is understood, is a great relief.

To be honest, turning every topic into violence and sex sounds somewhat meaningless to me.

Posted by: shaytana Jul 6 2004, 06:23 PM
I agree with everything that Vagabond said, so I will not repeat it ... but to add to it ... I have noticed that a majority of the threads are not discussions, not conversations but individual posts about Me Me Me, and I have attempted to ask direct questions about the Subject of the thread in order to start a conversation, a debate, an exchange of ideas instead of just single accounts of experience.

Hence my title.

and nobarcode: user posted image

ps: we need this smilie on this board, it is my most commonly used smilie on forums.

Posted by: CosmicDust Jul 6 2004, 07:19 PM
There's enough violence and sex in the American media as it is, so those of us bored with pop-culture crap will want to talk about other stuff too.

Posted by: Division56 Jul 6 2004, 08:06 PM
Although a little violence and sex isn't always bad. laugh.gif


This board seems more into drugs though.

Posted by: shaytana Jul 6 2004, 08:13 PM
mmm ritalin

Posted by: Lovechild Jul 6 2004, 10:04 PM
QUOTE (shaytana @ Jul 6 2004, 08:13 PM)
mmm ritalin

Stay away from my meds.. I paid good money for those.. money I could have been getting food for,, or paying rent with.. I sure as hell ain't sharing smile.gif

Posted by: 144DeZonia Jul 6 2004, 10:38 PM
Maybe I’m still stuck in the concept of Love,
But this Forum, reminds me of Love, my mother whom I miss.
Like the Gallant Knights of the round table, fearless, and honest.
It is very refreshing.

Posted by: Six Jul 7 2004, 04:53 PM
QUOTE (shaytana @ Jul 6 2004, 06:23 PM)
I have noticed that a majority of the threads are not discussions, not conversations but individual posts about Me Me Me, and I have attempted to ask direct questions about the Subject of the thread in order to start a conversation, a debate, an exchange of ideas instead of just single accounts of experience.


yeah, true, it comes off kind of self-centered. the basic tone seems to be "that's what happened to me, can you relate because it hopefully is an INTP-treat?"
exchanging life-stories in the long run is no kind of dialogue that leads anywhere... but it's definitely not meaningless! for some it might even be enough.
I think that this comes from the obvious need or longing to find similarities... probably something INTPs don't experience in everyday life... so it's reassuring to read about events and thoughts you can relate to...

But I figure that at one point it's gonna be either "wow, great, there are others like me, has been nice chatting with you but now let me get back to real life"
or people will start talking with each other.

and this is gonna be real fun to watch and take part in biggrin.gif

BTW: is this forum really that young? just a few months?




Posted by: antireconciler Jul 8 2004, 04:45 AM
QUOTE (Milk @ Jul 6 2004, 03:36 AM)
Do we really need all that validation? Are we using this place to take notes on each other? In short, wuzupwitdat?

Say I'm an INTP. This means that the chances of knowing many people who really understand me are lower than normal. An online forum is a logical result. Many posts have been written on this.

Let's also say people grow and develop faster and easier when they find other people in the same boat or, especially, have ventured ahead of them ... whatever "ahead" means to the individual. Anything from aquired skills to industrial nations provide excellent examples of this. So ... assuming development is good, an INTP would likely use a forum to develop ("develop" can take on a wide array of meanings, all of which can apply)

Is not validation a likely result of growing/developing and becoming more self-confident, intellectually-independent, what have you? An INTP WOULD feel under-appreaciated, being that they tend to be a sigma or two (or three) off of the societal average laugh.gif. Who can relate to them? Who can show them thierselves? Do you know who you are? I doubt it was a solitary journey. Why? We're still assuming "people grow and develop faster and easier when they find other people in the same boat". It all just keeps applying over and over.

Would not discussion of sex and violence be a likely result of the same process for other personalities?

That was ... incoherent. wacko.gif

Posted by: nobarcode Jul 8 2004, 05:08 AM
Lets say we have 160 odd people that have looked at this thread at this moment. wink.gif Let's say also, there have been 14 odd responses to it at this moment. I responded to it. So that would be the impression of it? (Why would I need you?, I don't. So why ask the question?) Lets say that I had 3 impressions regarding this thread. That is still far less than the information provided by the 13 other people that have responded to this thread. Regardless of validation, it makes sense logically that I have just expanded my impression/information base by a minimum of 14.