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Posted by: Claverhouse Jul 5 2004, 04:21 PM
From a weird ( weird & Japan to Westerners seem to go together no matter how open-minded one is to other cultures. No doubt this is reversed. ) Japanese store email; just in case you've ever wondered.

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The subject of the Japanese high school uniform is one that often
fascinates gaijin, especially Americans, who usually don't experience the
concept of school uniforms when attending school. Japan's school uniforms
are famous throughout the world, and many Japanophiles have latched onto
them as an all-encompassing symbol of Japan -- J-List even sells real
uniforms made by Matsukameya, a famous company in Nagoya, and they're very popular with our customers. The sailor uniform first appeared in England in
the 1860's as a military uniform. English parents thought it was cute to
dress children in miniature sailor suits, and so it became popular as a
school uniform for children. When Japan began modernizing after the Meiji
Restoration, when power was returned from the last Tokugawa Shogun to the
Meiji Emperor, the first girls' schools required students to wear special
kimonos called "basha-michi" (which means "a road for a horse and carriage
to travel on," meaning that the uniform had to be as proper and straight as
a road). As the Meiji era (1868-1912) gave way to the Taisho (1912-1925)
period, Japan underwent another wave of modernization and adopting Western fashions, and in 1921, the Fukuoka Girls' School became the first school to
adopt the cute English sailor uniform for their students. There are two
basic kinds of girls' uniform used in Japan today: the sailor uniform
(which consists of a "middy blouse" with grease catcher top and pleated
skirt) and the "blazer" (an external vest-like piece over a normal blouse,
with skirt). There are two kinds of uniforms for boys, too: the "gakuran"
(the traditional Japanese black two-piece uniform with stiff collar and
dark pants, and bright gold buttons) and the "blazer" (which basically is a
dark suit). Both the traditional sailor uniform and gakuran are in the
process of disappearing from Japan, supposedly, replaced in most schools by
the more modern blazer type uniforms. Many private schools hire famous
designers to create extra-fashionable school uniforms for their students.

There are some interesting school-related customs in Japan, including the
custom of "dai-ni button" (lit. "second button"). At graduation, it's
customary for a girl to ask a boy she likes to give her the second button
from the top of his school uniform, which is tantamount to her confessing
that she's in love with him. Often, "kohai" (underclassmen) ask for the
second buttons of their "senpai" (senior or upperclassmen) as they
graduate. If the boy gives her the second button from his uniform he's
affirming that he also has feelings for her, even though they may not see
each other again after graduation -- a bittersweet taste of young love that
was never to be. If he has some other girl that he wants to give the button
to, he has to apologize to the first girl and tell her that he's got
someone else he loves. If you want to check out a great story of
Japanese-style painful first love, check out Studio Ghibli's wonderful film
Ocean Waves, one of my own favorite animated films.



It's slightly terrifying to think of grown-ups buying school-uniforms presumably to look like manga kids, even though they're not equipped with the requisite saucer-eyes and tiny mouths.


( On the other hand, school uniform is still near mandatory in Britain: although now it is unisexual in order to dampen girls' attraction; rather like Maoist China ).




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Posted by: Lovechild Jul 5 2004, 08:29 PM
WHAT... I clicked on this expecting picture evidence...

strangely I'm so disappointed now.

Posted by: file cabinet Jul 5 2004, 08:49 PM
QUOTE (Lovechild @ Jul 5 2004, 03:29 PM)
WHAT... I clicked on this expecting picture evidence...

strangely I'm so disappointed now.

http://www.jbox.com/SEARCH/uniform/1
pics are there ^

Posted by: Claverhouse Jul 5 2004, 09:17 PM
I didn't say you could go there !





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Posted by: Claverhouse Jul 5 2004, 10:32 PM
Anyway --- I think Lovechild may be otherwise engaged for a day thanks to file cabinet's kindness --- for no particular reason ( they certainly aren't Manga ), has anyone else ever heard of Shonen Knife ?

Sort of Japanese Girl Rockers, been going on a long time.

http://www.shonenknife.com/

http://www.shonenknife.net/

http://www.sentex.net/~sardine/shonen.knife.html

Sort of interesting even if you're not interested in Rock music.



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Posted by: nobarcode Jul 6 2004, 01:26 AM
QUOTE (Claverhouse @ Jul 5 2004, 03:32 PM)
Anyway --- I think Lovechild may be otherwise engaged for a day
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Posted by: Lovechild Jul 6 2004, 07:24 PM
So, I openly admit that Japanese schoolgirls turn me on.. I've always had a thing for short girls.


Posted by: utopmk19 Jul 7 2004, 11:07 AM
Let Him/Her wank, I'm sure there are some with darker fetishes than this.

And likely in this forum.. Including me.

Posted by: misspadfoot Jul 15 2004, 11:30 PM
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It's slightly terrifying to think of grown-ups buying school-uniforms presumably to look like manga kids, even though they're not equipped with the requisite saucer-eyes and tiny mouths.
Was that in the email? I read it and reread it and couldn't find where it said that. Still, I believe it, scary though it may be.