| INTP Discussion Forum > People and Psychology > Have you ever been sexually abused? |
| Posted by: Metimbo=IMMT Jun 24 2004, 12:08 AM |
| Just curious, has anyone here been sexually abused or aroused at a young age? If so, please state whether it was abuse or arousal and if it was by: 1) Family Member 2) Friend of Family 3) Personal Friend 4) Stranger 5) Other (please explain) Also, by arousal, I mean like viewing pornography or something similar at a young age. And use your powerful intuition to know what I mean by "young". ~Tim |
| Posted by: utopmk19 Jun 24 2004, 12:49 AM | ||||
I wasn't going to answer this, but why not. Yes I was, maybe not severley...but I was made to expose myself to people,and I was touched frequently. And I was introduced to pornography by this same person,also at a very young age.
1, and both. Going into detail would be to painful/ uncomfortable. |
| Posted by: giftedmadness Jun 24 2004, 12:51 AM |
| Ok, the most obvious question is one I'll start with. Does this have anything at all to do with INTP personality types? I can't see how it does at all. Yes, I was exposed to sexuality early, touching, porn, etc, by a family member. |
| Posted by: Vagabond Jun 24 2004, 01:05 AM |
| Nothing heavy. My first "sexual" (if you can call it so) experience was a pervert in a crowded train that had his hands all over me in places of my body where he shouldn't. I was at a very young age and too naive to react, as he was "discrete" about it and I kept telling myself it was just my idea. Guilt was another feeling I had for long, although I couldn't explain why. And fear, without being able to tell what I was scared of. No scars left though, psychologically I mean. But as I said, that was just a "soft" side of abuse. |
| Posted by: file cabinet Jun 24 2004, 01:49 AM |
| my sister and I touched eachother at a young age.. and I touched some guy once while playing doctor(5-ish). I think he turned out to be gay because I met him once years later and there was some awkwardness, but I didn't really think about it until later. No 'real' abuse though. |
| Posted by: KentOhio Jun 24 2004, 07:10 PM |
| Abused? No, never. But I do remember that I could give myself erections at age four. |
| Posted by: NGene Jun 24 2004, 08:39 PM |
| Abused? Nope, never. But I started masturbating at the age of four or something, and I had some sexual play with some of my friends - both female and male. I won't go into details, some of my real life acquaintances might be reading this. But let's just say I've always been a little kinky, even before I was old enough to start school. |
| Posted by: CosmicDust Jun 24 2004, 09:35 PM | ||
I think I discovered it around 5-6 years old... John on the EIDB says Ennea-twins can have spooky similarities, but I never expected something like this. |
| Posted by: shaytana Jun 24 2004, 10:06 PM | ||
Same here. |
| Posted by: Jecca Jun 24 2004, 11:27 PM | ||||
Pretty much the same here... Maybe something common to INTP women? |
| Posted by: Strephonade Jun 24 2004, 11:52 PM |
| About the same here--I think it was around 6 or 7 for me, and the biological functions I figured out around the same time, mainly from watching nature programs on television. So that's where babies come from! Well, that makes sense--! Nature is cool! |
| Posted by: Vagabond Jun 25 2004, 12:07 AM | ||
LOL, my parents would keep me in the dark for years on that issue... I sort of forced them to "educate" me on that matter around the age of 7 - when after the Christmass meal, where my grandfather and uncle were present, I thought it was a good occasion to bring that question up once again. LOL, I will never forget the look on their faces - embarassed, some too pale, some too blushed; my dad gave me a book on "those things" written for children as there was no way in hell my parents would sit and actually talk to me about sex. I found the book stupid, but at least I got some idea on what the big deal was about. Don't ask how many years they were concealing that info from me - let's just say I was born a very curious child. |
| Posted by: Amy Jun 25 2004, 02:04 AM | ||
Me too. |
| Posted by: Division56 Jun 25 2004, 02:14 AM | ||||
Me three. I discovered online porn at 12. I still hold that it's one of mans greatest accomplishments to have a world-wide nework to distribute it. |
| Posted by: h_thur Jun 25 2004, 03:42 AM |
| Don't know of/remember any abuse. Started masturbating before age 4, probably between 2 and 3? I remember I was still in a crib. |
| Posted by: giftedmadness Jun 25 2004, 04:28 AM | ||||||
This will be our society's downfall. |
| Posted by: Division56 Jun 25 2004, 04:52 AM | ||||||||
[murmurs] Damm conservatives [/murmurs] I assume you'll tell me porn is why I'm gay. |
| Posted by: Spartan26 Jun 25 2004, 05:00 AM | ||
My parents were very mum on the word, too. Well, to an extent. I remember being, can't remember the aga definitely under 10 maybe 6-7 and asking my mom what did sex mean. Or hearing the term 'necking' on the show Happy Days and asking what it meant. No answer. Probably a good training ground for being an INTP - figure out a resonable answer on my own accord. I remember being on vacation and I'm not quite sure the circumstance but it was one of those things where as a kid you repeat everything you hear, and at this time it was necking. And my mom came into the hotel room asked where my father and sister were and I said, "In the bathroom - necking!" A quick scolding for saying that, but my mom still wouldn't tell me what it meant. Yeah, too bad my best line was wasted on a private audience. Who knows how many trips to a social worker or therapist that would've gotten us. Flash forward to seventh grade when I had to give a report of the reproductive system in class. Now I had had learned enough through some classes in elementary school and figuring stuff out from "traveling salesmen having to sleep with the farmer's daughter" jokes, but this was different. My mom was a nurse. I had seen some of the books she had around, but those were like encyclopedias compared to her medical text books. These things were so graphic I for years seriously wondered how doctors and nurses ever got aroused because in my mind all I see humans as being tissue, mukus and blood. No sexual abuse, though stripped my sister's dolls before I was seven. Loved touching women's/girls' legs at a young age. Still do, but rubbing my hand across a woman's tigh and saying she has soft legs now would get me maced and/or fired and/or sued and/or kicked in the groin, as opposed to a sweet smile and a thank you that it produced when I was in kindergarten. exposure to Playboy magazine at a young age. Penthouse a little later on. Curious type touching with other kids in the 'hood at an early age. I think nowadays it'd be considered kids offending kids, whether consentual or not, which this definitely was. Not the 'you show me yours, I'll show you mine' we'd all grown so found of referring to it as. It wasn't until I was in high school, maybe 16, when I saw my first porno. One of my sister's friends worked at video store and let my friends and I check some out. I have no idea if we were ahead or behind the curve on that. Not sure there were any lasting affects. There were parent/child communication issues but those were in general, not pertaining to sex alone. |
| Posted by: Division56 Jun 25 2004, 05:04 AM | ||
Lol, I stripped Ken. It was the Ken that worked with Orca's, he had a wet suit, flippers, the whole 9 yards. |
| Posted by: nobarcode Jun 25 2004, 06:19 AM | ||
Hey Tim, can you clarify the question? I mean, do you see a connection between being sexually aroused and being sexually abused at a young age? And what does porn have to do with either? |
| Posted by: Jkrs Jun 25 2004, 10:24 AM | ||||||
Heh, looks like I'm behind the curve on this one. Had the basics figured out by 10 or so, from a combination of my mothers' medical texts and the occasional piece of fiction. (Public libraries are a Good Thing. However, I didn't start masturbating until I was 12, when I finally had enough privacy to experiment in.) Didn't hear a word on the matter from my folks until I was well past puberty, but there's always been a low signal:noise ratio when speaking with them. At age 15 or so they gave me a book that was mostly redundant by then. I'd also noticed that I was somewhat kinky by that time. That last at least is looking fairly common among INTPs, if the posters to this thread are a representative sample. An interesting note on being a visual artist is that it's led to most porn failing in it's intended function - I keep trying to analyse the (often lacking) composition instead of enjoying the image. Never been abused, fortunately. Any mental damage I may or may not have experienced from the stuff in the rest of this post was self-inflicted and accidental, if not outrightly the figment of someone elses' imagination. |
| Posted by: Vagabond Jun 25 2004, 03:07 PM |
| OK I have a question; quite a few people in here mentioned "kinky". I usually consider as kinky very extreme stuff, so I was wondering if that is what you are talking about..? (Now that I think of it, this is a hard question to answer without going porn... still). |
| Posted by: int Jun 25 2004, 04:39 PM | ||
Except it was with girls only only. Two female neighbors did the whole doctor thing when I was 5 or so. Seperate instances. I attach no negative connotations (of my own) to these experiences, and consider my monogomous sex life completely normal, albeit imaginatively active. |
| Posted by: Division56 Jun 25 2004, 05:01 PM |
| Kinky can mean horny too. |
| Posted by: chaos_by_design Jun 27 2004, 05:31 AM |
| Nope, never. I suppose the Universe decided that having me be picked on by my peers and family was quite enough. |
| Posted by: Milk Jun 27 2004, 03:36 PM |
| I learned most of what I know about sex from reading Freudian case studies and Everything2.com. Does that count as abuse? |
| Posted by: paladinoflunaria Jun 28 2004, 04:31 AM | ||
No sexual abuse, etc. here, though I think I was about 5 when I became sexually conscious.
(from Paul James' essay) Wooo! |
| Posted by: Jkrs Jun 28 2004, 03:52 PM | ||
Can't speak for anyone else, but my definition of 'kinky' probably ends where yours starts; with a segue into 'way far out there'. Preferring that ones' partners be dressed in PVC would be kinky, for the near-end example. Category 'out there' covers things like bloodplay. |
| Posted by: A.W.T.S.W.O Jul 3 2004, 02:45 PM |
| The internet raped my mind. The scars will never heal. But physically, nope. |
| Posted by: Lovechild Jul 3 2004, 03:35 PM |
| If I was, I repressed it real well. |